I'm having a very hard time deciding what i think
I'm not happy at ESF. To me, protecting the environment isn't getting humans to stay the effe away from it and to take down the huge corporations that butcher rain forests, it's to help the people coexist and to change the ways these corporations do business in a manner that can mesh with the natural world instead of slaughtering it or avoiding it. It really burns me when i hear stuff like "oh, humans are ruining the world" "the negative human impact" "so many species are going extinct thanks to artificial selection". First of all the whole idea of 'artificial selection' is crap because humans are a species too, just because we can outcompete everything doesn't mean we're god or something super- or non-natural. And remember folks, humans are the only species that ever give a d*mn about the survival of any other animal beyond using them as a food source. Do not ever pretend humans are somehow above nature, and that we are an unnatural plague to this earth. We are just another animal in the unique position of being unstoppable and aware of it. They only living force mighty enough to curb the expansion of the human population is humanity itself, and obviously that struggle isn't easy. Other creatures only have to worry about the innate drive to expand procreate outlive, that's all they have to deal with so they can put their all into doing it. We on the other hand have been blessedcurst with this awareness and therefore have literally the future of life on the planet in the palms of our hands. And of course with 12 billion palms trying to handle the future, it's no wonder it's looking a little iffy. I don't believe we as a race can do the wrong thing, i don't think it's wrong for us to completely rape the surface of resources to advance our own and then die out once that's been exhausted; that's just one direction we can go in. Its an option. Doing that makes us on par with every other animal, it doesn't make us evil.
We could also chose to halt our expansion right now, cut reproduction, limit families, and live to who knows what end as a frozen and stable race. Another option, one that i personally think is impossible because humans just don't know how to stay put. This one makes us a step up from the animals, at least we can resist the hard-wiring.
Maybe we'll fight each other to death and go extinct that way, letting all the other animals have the earth to themselves forever. Is it wrong? Nope, just us affecting the world in our own little way.
This is making me sad, all of this seems so logical to me as i sit here pondering it, and when you think about it it kinda renders my dream of alternative energy useless. What's the point in choosing hydrogen over fossil fuels? No ozone layer and high gas prices don't make for a worse world, just a different one. People maintain this illusion that how we alter our present atmosphere and flora & fauna (which have been changing since time began anyway) can be somehow positive or negative, they see black coal smoke as inherently evil and not just another combination of chemicals that were already here. Technically, we're just combinations of chemicals ourselves. If you look at it that way, what happens to the earth isn't a result of "human" sic. activity, it's all one long insanely complex chemical reaction in which one of the reactants is conscious.
This line of thinking would suggest that it doesn't matter at all what we do, i can drive six Hummers at a time and burn down forests and shoot all the monkeys without a hint of guilt, for guilt is a relative term that compares one's choice of actions against a different set that's entirely arbitrary anway. Guilt is like temperature, it has no substance, it's just used as a reference measurement.
This, i think, was one of the post where i say what i'm thinking but don't end up with a conclusion to give you all. I guess you can read it and think of it what you will.
We could also chose to halt our expansion right now, cut reproduction, limit families, and live to who knows what end as a frozen and stable race. Another option, one that i personally think is impossible because humans just don't know how to stay put. This one makes us a step up from the animals, at least we can resist the hard-wiring.
Maybe we'll fight each other to death and go extinct that way, letting all the other animals have the earth to themselves forever. Is it wrong? Nope, just us affecting the world in our own little way.
This is making me sad, all of this seems so logical to me as i sit here pondering it, and when you think about it it kinda renders my dream of alternative energy useless. What's the point in choosing hydrogen over fossil fuels? No ozone layer and high gas prices don't make for a worse world, just a different one. People maintain this illusion that how we alter our present atmosphere and flora & fauna (which have been changing since time began anyway) can be somehow positive or negative, they see black coal smoke as inherently evil and not just another combination of chemicals that were already here. Technically, we're just combinations of chemicals ourselves. If you look at it that way, what happens to the earth isn't a result of "human" sic. activity, it's all one long insanely complex chemical reaction in which one of the reactants is conscious.
This line of thinking would suggest that it doesn't matter at all what we do, i can drive six Hummers at a time and burn down forests and shoot all the monkeys without a hint of guilt, for guilt is a relative term that compares one's choice of actions against a different set that's entirely arbitrary anway. Guilt is like temperature, it has no substance, it's just used as a reference measurement.
This, i think, was one of the post where i say what i'm thinking but don't end up with a conclusion to give you all. I guess you can read it and think of it what you will.

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